Trump to RFK Jr - 'When you feed a baby, Bobby, 38 different vaccines, looks like it’s for a horse, and then you see the baby all of a sudden change radically'

When you feed a baby, Bobby, a vaccination that is like 38 different vaccines, and it looks like it’s meant for a horse not a 10-pound or 20-pound baby. It looks like you should be giving a horse this [inaudible word].

And did you ever see the size of this? You know it’s this massive — and then you see the baby all of a sudden begin to change radically. I’ve seen it too many times. And then you hear that it doesn’t have an impact, right?

The above quote, from former President and presidential nominee Donald Trump in a private chat with RFK, Jr., is making the rounds on Twitter. Below is End Tribalism in Politics’s tweet of the video:

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It may appear as if Trump is exaggerating and short on details, or perhaps courting a potential political alliance with RFK, Jr. by expressing solidarity with his campaign for proper testing of vaccines. But is Trump wrong? Are children getting too many vaccines too close in time? Do babies sometimes change radically after vaccination?

Vaccine schedule fit for a horse

The image below is a portion of the CDC's recommended childhood vaccine schedule showing the recommended vaccines for children from birth through 15 months. For vaccines such as DTaP and MMR, three different vaccines are given in one injection. 

According to the schedule, if you bring your 2-month-old child for a well-check and s/he receives all the injections on the schedule for that month, your child will receive 6 or 7 different injections against 8 or 9 diseases. If you do the same thing at 4 months, your child will receive 5 injections against 7 diseases, and at 6 months 4 injections for 6 diseases. There are several different vaccine types; some have antigens that are the attenuated (weakened) live germ, others are inactivated (killed) germs, some are specific parts of the germ, toxoids - diphtheria and tetanus both contain the toxoid — the toxin produced by the germ, while the mRNA injection causes the body to manufacture a part of the virus. In addition to the antigen, vaccines generally contain aluminum, a neurotoxin, and a variety of other ingredients including antibiotics, aborted fetal cells, and human and animal proteins.

Respiratory syncytial virus (RSV)

RSV is an upper respiratory tract infection characterized by a runny nose, decreased appetite, coughing, sneezing, fever, and wheezing. The CDC stated that the symptoms usually appear in stages. Children generally recuperate within 1-2 weeks. Most children will have had an RSV infection by age 2. In very young infants "the only symptoms may be irritability, decreased activity, and breathing difficulties."  RSV can also cause more severe infections such as bronchiolitis, an inflammation of the small airways in the lung, and pneumonia, an infection of the lungs. It's the most common cause of bronchiolitis and pneumonia in children younger than 1 year. Greenmedinfo curated "56 Abstracts with Respiratory Syncytial Virus Infections Research."

The RSV injection, RSV-mAB/Nirservimab, is not a vaccine but a monoclonal antibody which comes with its own list of adverse events. A study published in 2015 in the journal Pediatrics found that mortality from RSV is rare in the 21st Century and most of the deaths are in children with complex chronic conditions so that the role RSV might have played in their death is in question.

Conclusions: Deaths associated with RSV are uncommon in the 21st century. Children with complex chronic conditions account for the majority of deaths, and the relative contribution of RSV infection to their deaths is unclear.

Hanish Jain, et. al., whose June 2023 article, "Respiratory Syncytial Virus Infection in Children," published in PearlStats, do not believe the [monoclonal antibody] antiviral treatment should be used on a regular basis due to adverse effects and efficacy concerns:

. . . There is a single antiviral treatment for RSV currently approved, but its use is limited by questionable efficacy, side effects, and cost, and it is recommended that it be used only for patients at risk for severe disease, on a case-by-case basis.

The image below is an "aerial view" of the U.S. vaccine schedule (without the RSV and COVID injections) and information about some of the vaccine ingredients, from Learn the Risk.

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Doctors give many vaccines at once - that must be safe

You may believe that if doctors are giving all these shots at once then they were surely studied together to make sure they are safe to be given simultaneously before the practice was approved. The Highwire host Del Bigtree showed top vaccine scientists speaking to that issue in the video in the section "Shocking vaccine admissions" below, based upon the WHO Global Vaccine Safety Summit held in December 2019.

Cross-reactivity between vaccines - does anyone know?

At the Summit, where the world's top scientists and doctors came together to discuss vaccine safety, Nigerian doctor Bassey Okposen questioned the safety of administering vaccines from multiple manufacturers at the same time. He expressed concern that there may be cross-reactions between the ingredients of different vaccines given simultaneously. He asked if there had ever been any such studies done.

‍Something crosses my mind. is there a possibility that these adjuvants, preservatives cross-reacting amongst themselves? Has there ever been a study on the possibilities of cross-reactions, from the panel members, that you can share the experience with us? Because, this is one thing that is also crossing my mind, going back home. This is an area that we will need to work with the regulatory agency. Let's even see what is happening. Is there any possibility? So we'll need guidance from the panel members, whether there has ever been any study on these cross reactions, of multiple antigens from different companies given to each other [sic] at the same time. What counsel do you have for us?

No safety data, but give them in separate limbs

Before Bigtree showed the response to Dr. Okposen's question, he inserted a video clip from a meeting of ACIP, the CDC's Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices, in which a similar question about the use of multiple vaccines was posed by one of the scientists on the committee.

Is there any comment on using this vaccine the same time with other adjuvanted vaccines?

The response he got was no - we have no information.

We have no data to, uh, make um a recommendation one way of the other.

This was obviously not the correct response, since then-executive secretariat Capt. Amanda Cohn, M.D. followed up with her own, more bizarre response, suggesting that it was okay to give them at the same time in different parts of the body. Does the CDC believe that the different parts of the body are not connected to each other? (Captain. Cohn is now serving as director of the Division of Birth Defects and Infant Disorders of the National Center on Birth Defects and Developmental Disabilities (NCBDDD).)

. . . So just to put this, um, into context with other vaccines. Um, whilst pre-clinical studies were not done using these vaccines simultaneously, our general approach to immunizations, is that, um, they should be given, they can be given at the same time in, um, different, um, limbs.

>> Shockingly, the CDC's "general approach to immunizations" is not based on science.

Vaccine schedule too complex to know about cross-reactivity

Bigtree then reverts back to the Vaccine Safety Summit for the answer that Dr. Okposen received from Director of the Brighton Collaboration Dr. Robert Chen, M.D. It was a long answer, or as Bigtree commented at the end of Dr. Chen's response, "That was a lot of words to get to the last point," which is that they do not yet have the data needed to start to answer the question that Dr. Okposen raised.

. . . If you take a look at the immunization schedule over the last, let's say, 15 to 20 years in the high income countries as well as in low resource countries, the schedule has gotten more and more complex, And so if you take a look at the exposure, what we call the vaccine exposure, in the typical adverse event report to a spontaneous reporting system in any country, you'll see that increase in heterogeneity of those different vaccine exposures especially if you take the manufacturer into account.

Now the only way to tease that out is if you have a large population database like the Vaccine Safety Datalink as well as some of the other national databases that are coming into being, where the actual vaccine exposure is tracked down to that level of specificity of who is the manufacturer, what is the lot number, etc. etc..

And there is initiative to try to make the vaccine label information barcoded so that it includes that level of information ,so that in the future when we do these type of studies we're able to tease that out. And each time you subdivide then the sample size becomes more and more challenging. And that's what I said earlier today, about that we're only in the beginning of the era of large data sets where hopefully you can start to kind of harmonize the databases for multiple studies, and there's actually an initiative under way . . . to try to get more national vaccine safety database linked together so we can start to answer these type of questions that you just raised.

This means that doctors worldwide are giving multiple vaccines to billions of children and there is absolutely no safety data to support the practice. There were no pre-marketing clinical trials to asses the safety of adding any vaccines on to the schedule, nor have they even been able to pull together the necessary data to find out the answer decades after the practice has been implemented.

‍>> Former-president Trump suggested that these were dosages for horses. Would you inject all those vaccines into yourself? Into your child?

Shocking vaccine admissions

What about individual vaccines?

Perhaps one will argue that they are sure that, even if giving multiple vaccines at the same time may not have been studied, individual vaccines must be safe. If so, watch to the entire program to hear what the top scientists and doctors have to say about vaccine safety science.

Do children change radically after a vaccine?

Trump said that he's seen children changing radically after vaccination. The following are parents’ experiences with vaccine injury posted by RFK Jr.'s Children’s Health Defense:

From a parent with two vaccine injured children:

I have 2 vaccine injured children. My son was born normal and healthy in 1995. He met every developmental milestone at 18 months, even exceeding some. Then he got his MMR and we lost him. It took over 1 million dollars of treatment for him to get to a stable place medically. He’ll still never be a taxpayer but at least he’s healthy.

My daughter was a normal, precocious, healthy kid. Then she was given her Kindergarten boosters a month before her 5th birthday and almost immediately she changed. Even the doctor who “missed” my son’s autism, was floored by my daughter’s swift decline. Chelation, diet and supplements recovered her from autism and she is now a 23y/o taxpayer with a degree in mechanical engineering. Vaccines RUIN lives when given to the wrong people. We are NOT one-size-fits-all and medicines shouldn’t be either. We want NO mandates, bring back manufacturer liability, and respect parent choice. Period.

Felton, PA

No assistance for her vaccine injured daughter:

My daughter had an adverse reaction to her vaccinations at 14 months old. She suffered with petit-mal seizures and an encephalopathy about a week later. She suffers with severe gastrointestinal inflammation and pain, brain inflammation, liver glutathione deficiency, hyperacusis, genetic mutations and methylation deficiency. She is now 13 and still suffers. I have had a very hard time with her having to stay home, the school will not help, mainstream doctors have not helped and I cannot afford to see her only doctor who has done the most help for her because he no longer accepts health insurance due to their not covering the ONLY treatments that have helped her!

Bastrop, TX

A doctor whose four-month-old patient died after a vaccine:

As a board-certified pediatrician, I thought vaccines were safe. I never read about them and we received minimal training in medical school, but still thought they were safe. In 2009 one of our 1-year-old patients died 4 hours after receiving his vaccines. That’s when I started reading about vaccines, and from that point on, I realized that the vast majority of doctors are not adequately trained to offer patients true informed consent. Doctors do not understand the risks of the current CDC-recommended vaccine schedule. I would *never* give my own child the current schedule.

Eden Prairie, MN

Son's lifetime issues caused by vaccines:

On October 5th of 2006, my very happy healthy typical child went in for his 12 month well child check. At 10 am, he received the regular schedule including the MMR. By 6 in the evening he was in the ICU fighting for his life. When he came home, everything started to change. His eating habits became awful, which is typical of gut damage. His eye contact was gone and so was his speech. Later he was diagnosed with Autism. I found this so odd since not a single person in my family has autism. I didn’t believe it was autism. I knew it was damage from his shots. My sister’s kids do not have autism, however they were not vaccinated like my son. I know for a fact his vaccines caused his issues. It’s for life. To allow these companies to lie and get away with this stuff is so tragic. It didn’t need to happen if the truth had been told. They knew it was possible. Of course, there is so much more to his story however, this is the short version. I think it was all his shots, with the MMR being the catalyst.

Salt Lake City, UT

Learn more about vaccine injuries:

• Leading Dr.: Vaccines-Autism Worth Study
• National Vaccine Information Center (NVIC)
• Del Bigtree: Vaxxed - From Cover-Up to Catastrophe (2016)‍

Who else knows vaccines are dangerous?

Vaccine manufacturer knew its DPT vaccine caused SIDS - and hid it

Vaccine manufacturer Wyeth (later bought by Pfizer) changed the way it distributed its vaccines after many children died from vaccine related SIDS in Tennessee. Called the "Tennessee cluster," the deaths were traced to several of its DPT vaccine lots. Wyeth, in response, decided it would no longer send more than 2,000 vials of any one lot to a single location.

Here's what happened, as recounted by Circle of Mamas for Sott.net.

From August 1978 to March 1979, 11 infants died suddenly and unexpectedly within eight days of their DPT vaccination, all in Tennessee. Nine of the 11 infants had received the same lot of DPT vaccine (diphtheria-pertussis-tetanus) from Wyeth Laboratories: lot 64201. Four of the 11 were dead in 24 hours.

All of the deaths were classified as SIDS.

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In March, Wyeth Labs agreed to recall all remaining doses of DPT from lot 64201, and several other lots as well.

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On April 26, 1979, the US surgeon general called for a meeting with officials from CDC, FDA, top DPT researchers and drug manufacturers. The CDC reported on a survey of states that had received 7,500 or more doses of lot 64201.

The survey yielded 14 more infant deaths - half within 24 hours of a DPT shot. All were classified as crib deaths. However, the children had received vaccine from other lots.

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Wyeth executives were concerned about the Tennessee Cluster, but their concern was more about splitting up the vaccine lots to promote "maximum variety of lot numbers". Thus obscuring the potential to identify a "hot lot".

Here's Wyeth's internal memo discussing the splitting up of lots (see Sott.net for the complete letter):

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By maximizing the variety of the lot numbers, any negative reactions would be more evenly dispersed, thus breaking up a "SIDS cluster" before it could form. It doesn't prevent SIDS from happening. It prevents us from seeing it as a cluster.This is about protecting public perception of the DTP Vaccine, not protecting infants from harmful vaccine lots. They wanted to prevent the public awareness of a temporal association between the DTP vaccine and SIDS. Thus, apparent "hot lots" would be more evenly distributed across the United States, rather than in one geographic region.

FDA's not sure about safety of polio vaccine - but ignores it

Here’s the FDA admitting in the June 1984 Federal Register that they may have safety problems with the polio vaccine but doubts "can't be allowed to exist:"

. . . any possible doubts, whether or not well founded, about the safety of the vaccine cannot be allowed to exist in view of the need to assure that the vaccine will continue to be used to the maximum extent consistent with the nation’s public health objectives.

>> The nation's health objectives, according to the FDA, do not include vaccine safety.

Exaggerated?

The details behind Trump's claims can be found above. Did the former president exaggerate or do we have a real problem here?

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